Comments for The Way of It http://thewayofit.com/blog Awakening to All that Is Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:53:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 Comment on A Color Theory of Freedom (and of those who point the way) by Philip http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/06/15/a-color-theory-of-freedom-and-of-those-who-point-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-57871 Philip Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:17:37 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=554#comment-57871 I see your point of the article as well Eduardo and it is a good one. I only caution that it is a slippery slope to try to maintain a relationship with a guru from a new stance as the guru environment is completely set-up to support the idea that the guru is special and one step above everyone else. I don't know as I have never tried it because when my rose-colored glasses have been removed, so has my motivation to enter the guru's environment. But I speculate that it would be an amazingly transformative experience for the follower. I am happy that it is possible for you. I am open to learning more about how you did it and what it was like for you. I see your point of the article as well Eduardo and it is a good one.

I only caution that it is a slippery slope to try to maintain a relationship with a guru from a new stance as the guru environment is completely set-up to support the idea that the guru is special and one step above everyone else. I don’t know as I have never tried it because when my rose-colored glasses have been removed, so has my motivation to enter the guru’s environment.

But I speculate that it would be an amazingly transformative experience for the follower. I am happy that it is possible for you. I am open to learning more about how you did it and what it was like for you.

]]> Comment on A Color Theory of Freedom (and of those who point the way) by Eduardo http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/06/15/a-color-theory-of-freedom-and-of-those-who-point-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-57870 Eduardo Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:25:37 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=554#comment-57870 Yes, you're right. I only speak for my experience. Separating from another human being, any human being, is painful <strong>for me</strong>. And that doesn't mean that I have to continue to expose myself to people that are not kind to me! There are two ways to physically and emotionally move away from a relationship that isn't working: one is in peace and one in stress. Both get the job done, but one is more efficient, in my opinion. From having tested it I learned that 'Loving what is' is NOT the same as putting up with what seems unhealthy or unfair to me. By all means, if you're in an abusive relationship, get out, and get out fast. And if you feel the need to gather what you call 'negative evidence' to make yourself feel better about the decision that you made, please do so. What's most important is that you do what feels right for you. As you said: there are no 'shoulds.' Yes, you’re right. I only speak for my experience. Separating from another human being, any human being, is painful for me. And that doesn’t mean that I have to continue to expose myself to people that are not kind to me! There are two ways to physically and emotionally move away from a relationship that isn’t working: one is in peace and one in stress. Both get the job done, but one is more efficient, in my opinion. From having tested it I learned that ‘Loving what is’ is NOT the same as putting up with what seems unhealthy or unfair to me. By all means, if you’re in an abusive relationship, get out, and get out fast. And if you feel the need to gather what you call ‘negative evidence’ to make yourself feel better about the decision that you made, please do so. What’s most important is that you do what feels right for you. As you said: there are no ’shoulds.’

]]> Comment on Yes, ‘you’! by Eduardo http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/09/10/yes-you/comment-page-1/#comment-57867 Eduardo Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:10:26 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=626#comment-57867 To be honest, I just found this image using Google Images. So much for me being able to give you permission to use it :). To be honest, I just found this image using Google Images. So much for me being able to give you permission to use it :).

]]> Comment on A Color Theory of Freedom (and of those who point the way) by Philip http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/06/15/a-color-theory-of-freedom-and-of-those-who-point-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-57866 Philip Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:24:15 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=554#comment-57866 "attacking them (the guru) in our minds or separating from them is not wise because it all feels like pain" Can you absolutely know that is true for everyone just because it is true in your case? First of all, when someone discovers that their guru is not who they have said they were and might even be the opposite, it is natural to want to find out more about this, to gather all the facts. If they have invested huge amounts of time, money and energy in him, and if the facts confirm that the guru has been lying about his enlightened state, his actions and intentions, for example, then it is natural to feel tricked. To say that it would be more painful to separate from this guru is presumptuous. It might in fact feel extremely freeing. Maybe it is only one's adherence to a spiritual concept or a "should" that would lead one to believe that separation is not healthiest course of action. If that were the case then non-separation would be forced and not self-loving. If one decides that separation is the best course of action, then honest evidence of the guru's hypocracy can be healthy to gather. When relationships are broken, it eases the pain that naturally occurs to take stock of what we are being spared of by not chosing to continue the relationship, or if the guru choses to end the relationship with us for that matter. To an outside person who has a 'should' against to negative evidence gathering, this can be construed as attacking. “attacking them (the guru) in our minds or separating from them is not wise because it all feels like pain”

Can you absolutely know that is true for everyone just because it is true in your case?

First of all, when someone discovers that their guru is not who they have said they were and might even be the opposite, it is natural to want to find out more about this, to gather all the facts. If they have invested huge amounts of time, money and energy in him, and if the facts confirm that the guru has been lying about his enlightened state, his actions and intentions, for example, then it is natural to feel tricked.

To say that it would be more painful to separate from this guru is presumptuous. It might in fact feel extremely freeing. Maybe it is only one’s adherence to a spiritual concept or a “should” that would lead one to believe that separation is not healthiest course of action. If that were the case then non-separation would be forced and not self-loving.

If one decides that separation is the best course of action, then honest evidence of the guru’s hypocracy can be healthy to gather. When relationships are broken, it eases the pain that naturally occurs to take stock of what we are being spared of by not chosing to continue the relationship, or if the guru choses to end the relationship with us for that matter.

To an outside person who has a ’should’ against to negative evidence gathering, this can be construed as attacking.

]]> Comment on Yes, ‘you’! by Amy http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/09/10/yes-you/comment-page-1/#comment-57058 Amy Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:37:30 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=626#comment-57058 Is it cool if I use this image as part of my Post Secret postcard? Is it cool if I use this image as part of my Post Secret postcard?

]]> Comment on Love does prevail by lava http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/10/18/love-does-prevail/comment-page-1/#comment-56749 lava Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:08:48 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=654#comment-56749 dear eduardo, just wanting to share that i found myself on your blog again today loving it and am thinking of you fondly! love, lava dear eduardo,
just wanting to share that i found myself on your blog again today loving it and am thinking of you fondly!
love,
lava

]]> Comment on 10 Paradoxical Commandments of Leadership by michelle.k http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/10/12/10-paradoxical-commandments-of-leadership/comment-page-1/#comment-56410 michelle.k Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:08:00 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=641#comment-56410 Thank you to two of my favorite people, who show me how to live in integrity and when I don't they love me anyway. Thank you to two of my favorite people, who show me how to live in integrity and when I don’t they love me anyway.

]]> Comment on Yes, ‘you’! by michelle.k http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/09/10/yes-you/comment-page-1/#comment-56299 michelle.k Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:11:28 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=626#comment-56299 I did inquiry with Katie this weekend on, "I shouldn't take things personally." She quickly said, "Yes, you should. You do." I argued, "But I know better!", and she replied, "No, you don't!" This post is another example for me of the benefits of taking things personally when I do. I got to take a look and see where I am blind to others' feelings when I think I know something (and that they need to know it too). I got to see me hurting myself when I believe it's personal, no longer the victim. And I'm more open to seeing if it's personal or not. So far, 'not' keeps showing up and I love that I'm testing it. ♥ I did inquiry with Katie this weekend on, “I shouldn’t take things personally.” She quickly said, “Yes, you should. You do.” I argued, “But I know better!”, and she replied, “No, you don’t!” This post is another example for me of the benefits of taking things personally when I do. I got to take a look and see where I am blind to others’ feelings when I think I know something (and that they need to know it too). I got to see me hurting myself when I believe it’s personal, no longer the victim. And I’m more open to seeing if it’s personal or not. So far, ‘not’ keeps showing up and I love that I’m testing it. ♥

]]> Comment on Yes, ‘you’! by Eduardo http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/09/10/yes-you/comment-page-1/#comment-56263 Eduardo Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:44:19 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=626#comment-56263 Or better said: no need to take that personally, sweetie. It wasn't about 'you.' Or better said: no need to take that personally, sweetie. It wasn’t about ‘you.’

]]> Comment on Yes, ‘you’! by Eduardo http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/09/10/yes-you/comment-page-1/#comment-56237 Eduardo Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:22:59 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=626#comment-56237 Nobody can take that personally on your behalf. Only you can :) Nobody can take that personally on your behalf. Only you can :)

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