Comments on: A Color Theory of Freedom (and of those who point the way) http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/06/15/a-color-theory-of-freedom-and-of-those-who-point-the-way/ Awakening to All that Is Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:08:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Philip http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/06/15/a-color-theory-of-freedom-and-of-those-who-point-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-57871 Philip Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:17:37 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=554#comment-57871 I see your point of the article as well Eduardo and it is a good one. I only caution that it is a slippery slope to try to maintain a relationship with a guru from a new stance as the guru environment is completely set-up to support the idea that the guru is special and one step above everyone else. I don't know as I have never tried it because when my rose-colored glasses have been removed, so has my motivation to enter the guru's environment. But I speculate that it would be an amazingly transformative experience for the follower. I am happy that it is possible for you. I am open to learning more about how you did it and what it was like for you. I see your point of the article as well Eduardo and it is a good one.

I only caution that it is a slippery slope to try to maintain a relationship with a guru from a new stance as the guru environment is completely set-up to support the idea that the guru is special and one step above everyone else. I don’t know as I have never tried it because when my rose-colored glasses have been removed, so has my motivation to enter the guru’s environment.

But I speculate that it would be an amazingly transformative experience for the follower. I am happy that it is possible for you. I am open to learning more about how you did it and what it was like for you.

]]> By: Eduardo http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/06/15/a-color-theory-of-freedom-and-of-those-who-point-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-57870 Eduardo Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:25:37 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=554#comment-57870 Yes, you're right. I only speak for my experience. Separating from another human being, any human being, is painful <strong>for me</strong>. And that doesn't mean that I have to continue to expose myself to people that are not kind to me! There are two ways to physically and emotionally move away from a relationship that isn't working: one is in peace and one in stress. Both get the job done, but one is more efficient, in my opinion. From having tested it I learned that 'Loving what is' is NOT the same as putting up with what seems unhealthy or unfair to me. By all means, if you're in an abusive relationship, get out, and get out fast. And if you feel the need to gather what you call 'negative evidence' to make yourself feel better about the decision that you made, please do so. What's most important is that you do what feels right for you. As you said: there are no 'shoulds.' Yes, you’re right. I only speak for my experience. Separating from another human being, any human being, is painful for me. And that doesn’t mean that I have to continue to expose myself to people that are not kind to me! There are two ways to physically and emotionally move away from a relationship that isn’t working: one is in peace and one in stress. Both get the job done, but one is more efficient, in my opinion. From having tested it I learned that ‘Loving what is’ is NOT the same as putting up with what seems unhealthy or unfair to me. By all means, if you’re in an abusive relationship, get out, and get out fast. And if you feel the need to gather what you call ‘negative evidence’ to make yourself feel better about the decision that you made, please do so. What’s most important is that you do what feels right for you. As you said: there are no ’shoulds.’

]]> By: Philip http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/06/15/a-color-theory-of-freedom-and-of-those-who-point-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-57866 Philip Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:24:15 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=554#comment-57866 "attacking them (the guru) in our minds or separating from them is not wise because it all feels like pain" Can you absolutely know that is true for everyone just because it is true in your case? First of all, when someone discovers that their guru is not who they have said they were and might even be the opposite, it is natural to want to find out more about this, to gather all the facts. If they have invested huge amounts of time, money and energy in him, and if the facts confirm that the guru has been lying about his enlightened state, his actions and intentions, for example, then it is natural to feel tricked. To say that it would be more painful to separate from this guru is presumptuous. It might in fact feel extremely freeing. Maybe it is only one's adherence to a spiritual concept or a "should" that would lead one to believe that separation is not healthiest course of action. If that were the case then non-separation would be forced and not self-loving. If one decides that separation is the best course of action, then honest evidence of the guru's hypocracy can be healthy to gather. When relationships are broken, it eases the pain that naturally occurs to take stock of what we are being spared of by not chosing to continue the relationship, or if the guru choses to end the relationship with us for that matter. To an outside person who has a 'should' against to negative evidence gathering, this can be construed as attacking. “attacking them (the guru) in our minds or separating from them is not wise because it all feels like pain”

Can you absolutely know that is true for everyone just because it is true in your case?

First of all, when someone discovers that their guru is not who they have said they were and might even be the opposite, it is natural to want to find out more about this, to gather all the facts. If they have invested huge amounts of time, money and energy in him, and if the facts confirm that the guru has been lying about his enlightened state, his actions and intentions, for example, then it is natural to feel tricked.

To say that it would be more painful to separate from this guru is presumptuous. It might in fact feel extremely freeing. Maybe it is only one’s adherence to a spiritual concept or a “should” that would lead one to believe that separation is not healthiest course of action. If that were the case then non-separation would be forced and not self-loving.

If one decides that separation is the best course of action, then honest evidence of the guru’s hypocracy can be healthy to gather. When relationships are broken, it eases the pain that naturally occurs to take stock of what we are being spared of by not chosing to continue the relationship, or if the guru choses to end the relationship with us for that matter.

To an outside person who has a ’should’ against to negative evidence gathering, this can be construed as attacking.

]]> By: Nina Lynch http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/06/15/a-color-theory-of-freedom-and-of-those-who-point-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-56056 Nina Lynch Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:42:14 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=554#comment-56056 Love it, love you Eduardo, Nina Love it, love you Eduardo, Nina

]]> By: michelle.k http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/06/15/a-color-theory-of-freedom-and-of-those-who-point-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-55114 michelle.k Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:10:39 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=554#comment-55114 I'm feeling grateful for this glimpse at unconditional love for colorful ME. I'm working on it. I’m feeling grateful for this glimpse at unconditional love for colorful ME. I’m working on it.

]]> By: nancy http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/06/15/a-color-theory-of-freedom-and-of-those-who-point-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-54901 nancy Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:40:57 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=554#comment-54901 i just love this... well, just the whole blog really, but this is special to me...i'm just sayin' thanks! i just love this… well, just the whole blog really, but this is special to me…i’m just sayin’
thanks!

]]> By: Dragica http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/06/15/a-color-theory-of-freedom-and-of-those-who-point-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-54873 Dragica Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:59:40 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=554#comment-54873 If we are everything (and nothing) we are all the colors (white). I don't care of stories about colors. Today I shall take whatever I like. If we are everything (and nothing) we are all the colors (white). I don’t care of stories about colors. Today I shall take whatever I like.

]]> By: Eduardo http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/06/15/a-color-theory-of-freedom-and-of-those-who-point-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-54869 Eduardo Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:21:31 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=554#comment-54869 Right on. And that itself, another form of 'blue' or 'red.' Whatever I call them, to love them. That's my job. Right on.

And that itself, another form of ‘blue’ or ‘red.’

Whatever I call them, to love them. That’s my job.

]]> By: Carol L. Skolnick, ClearLifeSolutions.com http://thewayofit.com/blog/2009/06/15/a-color-theory-of-freedom-and-of-those-who-point-the-way/comment-page-1/#comment-54866 Carol L. Skolnick, ClearLifeSolutions.com Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:24:55 +0000 http://thewayofit.com/blog/?p=554#comment-54866 Then again, my blue is not your blue...my red is not your red. Then again, my blue is not your blue…my red is not your red.

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